I recently started playing again and discovered something that maybe people didn't know? Russian Mafia probably already knows... but I figure the English speaking crowd should also.

I placed the Doggy toy about midway on the ramp (the ramp that's located between the China Town Countryside exit and Winslet avenue) the one that can be used to jump onto the platform on the side of the building.

Anyway... you know how when you shutdown Mafia and then start it up again; the Super Weapons will be locked in their positions? They need to be reset to function again, yeah well I noticed the beam going through the ramp and thought it might be climbable. It is!!!



I was able to "walk up" the beam to the top of the spaceship (the same way Tommy can walk up a building when using the steps and super speed). It's a lovely view up there... hehe, and you can get back down very easily too. If you're careful you can slide back down the beam and not lose a single point of health, you can also jump down but you will take some damage. Hardly noticeable if you have super constitution enabled.

The spaceship is completely solid, you can stand on the edge without dropping back down. Might be fun if you have the Mosin Nagant.

The other thing is this... last year when the 6.5 million dollar "traitorous body guards" secret was discovered, MikeMouse told us the quickest way to see it, to make the 6.5 million dollars needed, was to use his savegame and kill Golem 3 times, because every time you kill him you earn $200,000. When I posted this, I added that the easiest way to kill Golem was with the BM4WD, using a combination of the Gun Turret and Jumping Car function. I was completely wrong.



The quickest way to kill Golem is to:

1. Call Golem from the Phone Booth near Salieri (the Car Dealer)
2. Run over next to the car Salieri has for sale and wait for Golem to appear.
3. When Golem shows up and pulls out his gun to attack (either you or Salieri) run around behind him.

Salieri will shoot Golem and Golem will be busy shooting back. You can walk up behind Golem and kill him with a shotgun, either the Pump Action Shotgun or the Lupara Sawn-off Double-barrel Shotgun.

The whole routine takes 1 or 2 minutes. Then save the game and cross the city limits (go to the Countryside and back again) to reset everything. Then do it again, call Golem from the phone booth, wait 'til he and Salieri get into a gunfight and then kill him from behind. This is the fastest way to make the 200 grand.

Just note that Golem can approach you from different directions, depending on the traffic. Also Mike you might be able to answer this (if you can remember? hehe) do the two Detective body guards also turn up when you call Golem? For me sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.

And lastly... I was teasing the BM4WD Nudie gang in Countryside day and noticed something about the small rise (incline, hill) near to them. If you run around them and draw them up onto the angled slope of that "small rise", the BM4WD's will sometimes start bouncing, identical to the anomaly I've mentioned in the Morello mission. They bounce for a while and then shoot up into space. It takes a little bit of time but it's possible to make them all disappear like this.

That's it, bye for now...

IMHO the easiest way to get 3 times for 200 000 dollars is to complete Port mission once again :-D

Hehe, very funny simsalabim, I had a good laugh at that (at my own expense I think). Let's not talk about the Port mission, it gives me a splitting headache.

Congratulations on the moderator status BTW (I know it comes a little late, but no less sincerely).

Re: Ramps... the reason for my post was because this "climb up to the spaceship" trick will most likely work on the other ramps also:

New Ark/Hoboken Football Stadium
Down Town ramp that goes over the river to Central Island (near Federal Trade Commission)
Down Town ramp that's near the New Ark elevated railway line
New Ark ramp that's on the Terranova bridge

Maybe someone else can confirm this? I'll surely test drive the theory when I have some spare time.

PS. is this old news? I mean did people already know this?

Your trick with shaceship climbing is unique I've never heard about it and never tried it myself... Even more I've never thought it could be possible because I was pretty sure the spaceship model can't be solid (doesn't have clipping)... So it's a worderful and brand new trick, my congratulations You know since the Alive mod is three years old it's very hard (and getting harder) to find some new, undiscovered tricks... So I'm pretty sure there is a plenty of them

Y'know I'm hopeless at the Port mission and the Dirty Street Race but I am positive there is a LOT to discover in them, maybe when I get a little better with the sniper rifle, err. and um driving.

OK I tried this trick on the Terranova bridge and the ramp that crosses over the river. For me they did not work. But perhaps I positioned the Doggy toy poorly? I'm not giving up just yet...

It worked perfectly at the ramp near the New Ark elevated railway station, and further more it is easy to jump down onto the elevated railway.



Then I got an idea... how about any incline? Well yes it does. See here I got it to work at the slope near the beach (sea monster mission) in City Night!



The reason for the lamp post screenshot (through the telescopic sight of the Mosin Nagant) is to show you that you may not be able to shoot over some fences, they have clipping and are solid (the bullets ricochet and bounce off).

Also I realise I mentioned the ramp in the football stadium, yes this was a mistake, I was thinking of FRE.

In any case, this new find opens new doors because now we will be able to climb onto new places using this technique... whoohoo!

Cool I'm going to try this your brand new method... Could be funny

There're lots of places (all over the map) where it works, and works well. Not only on the ramps, on slopes, but also stairs too! Though you'll have to find "large stairs" because the area the beam covers is BIG. These stairs were ideal:



Plus it's a good place to practice your sharp-shooting skillz, you have cars and pedestrians comin' and goin' in all directions. And Salieri will come to your aid if Golem (and I imagine the Terrorist) shows up.

I forgot the Super Weapon will still be functional (even if the beam is now solid) and as I was shooting at targets, the UFO moved to "beam them up" or throw enemy cars, which left me standing on nothing (like Wile. E. Coyote).

If you stay on the one spot, and only rotate around on your x-axis, then Tommy won't fall. But if you try to move in any direction, the game register's Tommy is no longer standing on something solid and you fall down.

Screenshot (bottom left corner). I called Golem at the Phone Booth before I climbed onto the spaceship, he should've listened to his mama when she told him not to play on the tram lines. OUCH!

A word from our sponsor, Don Salieri.

S me ideas...

I wonder what'll happen if we use the Doppelganger on top of the spaceship? Will he fall down? Or will he walk on air?

Is it possible to set a Doghead or Dragon Toy on the spaceship? There are a few places in Lost Heaven where the Doggy Toy can be placed so that the spaceship is only a few metres off the ground, e.g. tunnel entrance on Central Island. Will other Super Weapons function on the UFO? Or will it override them? Hmmm...

Engaging the Dollyman from up there will produce some interesting results. Does anybody think they can eliminate Morello and all his henchmen (Morello mission) from "up there" using the Mosin Nagant only?

Maybe there is a big enough "incline" inside the Port? Somewhere along the wall? What if, we left the Doggy Toy outside the Port, right next to the wall, so that when we save, shutdown, start Mafia again and enter the Port, the "solid beam" is both on the outside and the inside... maybe we could climb onto it from inside the Port? (that idea hurts my brain)



Unrelated to the spaceship trick but fun to watch. Salieri and the 2 Detective Body Guards kill Golem.

Dirty Salieri.

Mike I'll upload something to the gallery next time.

No point making a new thread for these, just some random stuff. Silver Fletcher "Countryside" gang riddling Tommy with bullets. BM4WD bounces into another dimension (happening more and more lately). BM4WD "Countryside" gang member, bleeding to death. 3 dirty cops from the Corrupt Countryside Coppers gang. Countryside Night Madman killing Tommy. City Day - Lassiter Gang Vs. Salieri, 2 Detective Body Guards. I added the Doghead for some pyrotechnics. Gotta' love them fire flashes.



Just a few more from this encounter. Oh and "on topic" finally, the last 4 screenshots are of "the trick" being utilized at the building on that small island near the Terranova bridge, New Ark. The civilians in that last screenshot look like ants... must be because I'm so high up in the sky...

Great screenshots! My favorite ones are with Tommy on the top of UFO... That's is a fantactic trick! I've never heard about something in that kind

For some reason those allien spaceships are transparent. I mean Tommy falls through them. Just like ghost gangster or polizie.
What do you need to do to materialize them?

ringostarr
Read carefully! In the first post Soultaker explained this trick

I can explain a bit better

1. Place Doggy toy on stairs, or on slope.
2. Save your game!
3. Shutdown Mafia and revert back to your Desktop

This makes the beam solid next time you start Mafia again.

4. Start Mafia again
5. Run up stairs or up slope toward the beam.

Tommy will start walking upwards. You have to have Super speed ON, you will also have to move a little to left and right to keep Tommy in centre of the beam, otherwise he slips off to the side.

Be careful when close to the top! Because Super speed is ON, you move fast, so as soon as you are on top of the spaceship Tommy will run toward the edge, STOP immediately or else you fall down.

Also you don't need to "step" or "climb" onto the spaceship. Just keep walking and eventually you will be on top. And when you place the Doggy toy, be sure to consider that the beam is at least 20 foot thick circle, if it covers all the stairs you won't be able to run up them.

Oh, I get it now!
It's a very smart trick! I think I could never find it meself.
Thank you for your explanation!

Thanks ringostarr

Played again today... I didn't realise Golem "cycles" through a bunch of weapons!! (see August-Alive-02.jpg)

The Spaceship Trick works on the Repair Trucks, but you need to place the Doggy toy perfectly, also better to use the plank on the side of the truck rather than the two at the back. I tested it at the Old Prison.

If you walk toward the Good Priests car (push it) "when it is reversing", then it won't go around you and take off. It'll just keep reversing, again and again, while your health increases.

Is it the Jolly "Green" Giant? There's a good pun in that, if you know where to look for it? Hehe, you'll see what I mean in screenshot No. 9

Anyway, so I wanted to see how this trick cooperates with the Doghead and Dragon toy. I tried it (City Day) near the fountain in the park at New Ark (in front of the hospital) but I couldn't climb the beam (chose a bad slope). Restarted and tried at the "beach" in Down Town. Might be the limitations of my computer? But the AI cars don't appear on the road at that corner, however you can see and shoot them in the street near Tommy's house. But they can't trigger the other Super Weapons.

Then I found a perfect location!! On the slope beside the Hoboken bridge (the bridge over the ground tram tracks) opposite side of the Gas station. So some descriptions of the screenshots...

Once you've planted the Doggy toy, save your game at this phone booth. You can see the spaceship's beam in the top right corner. I planted the Doggy toy on the hill to the left, the Dragon toy on the footpath and the Doghead on the road.

When you shoot enemy cars they typically race over to the "designated kill zone" with their vehicles, which means the Spaceship will pick 'em up and hurl 'em away. But sometimes the enemies will get out of their cars and start shooting at you, in that case you'll need to extinguish the situation ASAP with well placed bullets, because their bullets will hit you.

It's hard to determine where the UFO will throw the cars unless Super Powers are turned on and the screen is "distorted", because you can't see under the spaceship.

Most of the time the enemy cars will drive over the Doghead and the driver/passengers will catch on fire. The Dragon toy did NOT work for me at all. I tried it several times, but nothing. However the Dohead/Doggy toy combo works well (burning car is thrown).

Cops are turned into Dogs super fast!

It may be hard to distinguish because the Spaceship disappeared from beneath me, but I'm still high up in the sky. I was able to play on for about 30 minutes without falling down, and the Doggy toy would still throw cars. It looks like an optical illusion, like Tommy is a giant. So long as you don't move forward or back, left or right, so long as you just "pivot" on the one spot, you don't fall.

And you gotta' get rid of the traffic jams (grenades come in handy) because the traffic jams stop new cars from spawning, but it's very easy to jump back down, obtain new weapons and then run back up the beam again. This is the easiest place to climb the beam. A few seconds and voila!

I'm going to see what the Body Guards do next? I'm especially keen to see what the Super Priest Body Guard will do? But I think I'll keep hold of those findings until we see some member participation, maybe someone else try some new locations, share your screenshots...